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Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#1 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:02 am

For this poll the options are Drop Zone, Droid Run, Multi-Mode, and Blast. The poll will be open for a little over a week. It will be closed on Friday, June 16th.

For the purposes of this poll, a vote for Multi-Mode will be a vote for this format below, in which maps and modes are preset before the tourney starts in the rules (example is for best of 5, but it also works for best of 3 if we do that for the earlier stages just ignore lines 4 and 5):

Drop Zone - Preset Map 1 - Higher Seed Faction
Cargo - Preset Map 2 - Lower Seed Faction
Droid Run - Preset Map 3 - Higher Seed Faction
Drop Zone - Preset Map 4 - Lower Seed Faction
Cargo - Preset Map 5 - Higher Seed Faction

https://goo.gl/forms/xd2yigrtTu9xBP333

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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#2 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:56 pm

Just as a small update, please only one vote per player everyone. I am going to remove 2 votes from 2 different people who voted twice.
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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#3 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:43 pm

http://imgur.com/a/ycfic

https://youtu.be/NcFAJzFkRm0

For those of you new to competitive gaming, I understand you may not fully understand why I proposed this multi mode concept. See the links above for a picture and video example of how multi mode tournaments work and why it is by far the most competitive and most balanced tournament. This is not the only game to where there are stronger teams on certain game modes. It's nothing out of the ordinary..

A great and overused example would be Team Bangkok Thai Fighters, APOC or what ever you want to call them, they are the best team in the game at the moment. They are well balanced on any game mode with a slight advantage on Dropzone being their best mode.

I like to compare APOC to Optic Gaming. Optic is the best team in Call of Duty.. why? Because they are well balanced on every game mode with a slight advantage on other teams in game mode Hardpoint which is very similar to Dropzone. They dominate many tournament events but there are teams who are better than them at Search and Destroy which can give them problems deep into tournaments, giving other top tiers teams a chance to win a tournament.

On a side note it would also be great to see all modes being played in scrims, besides one game mode for the next one to two months. Before we know it the beta for Battlefront 2 will be out and we will on move on. And throwing out another idea for our last BF1 tournament ---it would be a cool idea to have a CLASS ONLY Tournmanent to end out SWBF1, something to where we have 4 players with preset classes similar to the infantry, specialist, heavy gunner and officier on a multi mode tournament layout. Not only will it prepare everyone for BF2 but it sounds really fun.
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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#4 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:07 am

The poll is now closed, I will be posting the results in a few minutes.

EDIT:
Alright I deleted a few duplicate votes and also a vote where someone didn't put their PSN.
Here are the results:

Drop Zone: 29 votes
Multi-Mode: 19 votes
Blast: 0 votes
Droid Run: 0 votes

Total: 48 votes
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The next tournament will be for Drop Zone!
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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#5 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:07 am

iiGoHamOnYou wrote:For those of you new to competitive gaming, I understand you may not fully understand why I proposed this multi mode concept. See the links above for a picture and video example of how multi mode tournaments work and why it is by far the most competitive and most balanced tournament. This is not the only game to where there are stronger teams on certain game modes. It's nothing out of the ordinary..

Like I said in the other thread when we were coming up with which Multi-Mode format to put on the poll, I really don't think the difference is big enough to say that it would be "by far the most competitive". I do think it would force there to be more variety for better or for worse. However many might not want variety for the sake of variety, though I think it could make things interesting. I also think many teams would take issue with the staff picking the maps and being forced to play Droid Run in every match. I personally do not think Droid Run is that bad of a mode, but I think many teams don't think it belongs in clan matches for whatever reason.

Maybe if we include a similar format in the next poll it would win if it is up against Cargo, but I'm not sure.

iiGoHamOnYou wrote:On a side note it would also be great to see all modes being played in scrims, besides one game mode for the next one to two months. Before we know it the beta for Battlefront 2 will be out and we will on move on. And throwing out another idea for our last BF1 tournament ---it would be a cool idea to have a CLASS ONLY Tournmanent to end out SWBF1, something to where we have 4 players with preset classes similar to the infantry, specialist, heavy gunner and officier on a multi mode tournament layout. Not only will it prepare everyone for BF2 but it sounds really fun.

I do think this is a cool idea. @
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actually proposed this idea around the time of Cargo 1 and earlier I think. I have heard of some of the PC players doing some mixed scrimmages like this too. I was also going to add a class specific category to our open ladder but didn't wind up doing it because of how few people actually play on the ladder. The hard part is coming up with the classes / trying to make them somewhat balanced. It's okay if some are better than others in a class restricted format, but hopefully there wouldn't be too big of a gap.

You guys can play whatever mode you want in scrimmages. Just communicate with your opponents about it. Yes, most teams are gonna want to play a certain mode but you can always ask for other modes. Also I think it's too soon to even talk about moving to the next game yet, but I will say we won't be stopping SWBF 3 tourneys when the beta for the next game is out, most likely we would stop when the game is fully out. But even then we might continue on with this game if there is enough interest and/or if DICE makes the same mistakes again to the extent that we don't have a choice.
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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#6 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:16 pm

mike you're saying there's a chance?!? (my classes are still around on the site and if there's a tournament that ran with them I think I might have to join a team despite not having played EABF in months)

There it is:
5v5
All must use scout trait (I don't understand why they like the idea of having people visible for just running on the map)
Classes:
Infantry: A280C or E11, thermal detonator, flash grenade
Sniper: T21b, cycler rifle, cooling cell, scout pistol
Turret knockout/pistoleer: DH17/se14c, ion torpedo, ion grenade,
Heavy: DLT 19 or RT97, personal shield, impact grenade
Shotgun: CA87, jump pack, flash grenade

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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#7 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:26 pm

=BA=Deadman wrote:mike you're saying there's a chance?!? (my classes are still around on the site and if there's a tournament that ran with them I think I might have to join a team despite not having played EABF in months)

Oh there's definitely a chance, like I said in my other post, I was planning on adding a class specific category to our open ladder last year, but then everyone stopped playing matches on it by the end of last June so I didn't bother. Recently matches might start to happen more often again on the ladder.

=BA=Deadman wrote:All must use scout trait (I don't understand why they like the idea of having people visible for just running on the map)

The problem is last year DICE changed all the traits. Scout doesn't even hide you on the radar while running at trait level 1 anymore. They messed it up pretty bad and made it to where Bodyguard is the best trait in the game now (it's just a percentage damage reduction). We wound up banning all traits for the past few tournaments. Not all of the traits are OP, in fact I think a few of them could be unbanned, but to make it simpler all trait cards have been banned for awhile now.

For classes maybe they would need to have different traits because it appears to me that players wouldn't like everyone using Bodyguard. The traits are all totally changed from when you last played.
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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#8 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:06 pm

Time to kill was pretty fast (at least in competitive) so maybe having everyone running bodyguard might not hurt, but honestly leveling up a trait sounds like such a terrible idea. Also sounds like the EABF2 might be pay to win for a bit every time a new season comes out with the whole elite star card system they have thought up. Not like that will affect gameplay at all :roll:

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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#9 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:41 pm

=BA=Deadman wrote:Time to kill was pretty fast (at least in competitive) so maybe having everyone running bodyguard might not hurt, but honestly leveling up a trait sounds like such a terrible idea. Also sounds like the EABF2 might be pay to win for a bit every time a new season comes out with the whole elite star card system they have thought up. Not like that will affect gameplay at all :roll:

Yea personally I think everyone with Bodyguard might be okay, it would just be different. It kinda adds killstreaks where people at trait 3 are decently harder to kill and I feel like most players wouldn't like that. I wouldn't necessarily care, but it would make staying alive matter more.

The DLC for the next game is apparently free, but I am also worried about micro-transactions. I can easily see them selling "Star Card Packs" like lootboxes in Overwatch or supply drops in Black Ops 3. If it was just cosmetic items it would be fine, but I think they would do things like "Legendary Scan Pulse" that lasts longer or something. It could get very stupid if they aren't careful.
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Re: Poll for Next PS4 Tournament Game Mode

Post#10 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:00 am

I can see it now, officer legendary star card, super adrenaline, gives 300+ health to all people around you and +50% damage. I'm going to be waiting to play the beta before I decide on whether to pick it up or not, and even then they might hide the elite star card system

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